If you cant beat them join them

If you are unable to outdo rivals in some endeavor, you might as well cooperate with them and thereby possibly gain an advantage. If your adversaries are stronger than you, it is better to join the adversaries. If you have to give up fighting some group because you can't win, band together with them.

If you can't win the battle, join the winning side. If you can't beat them, join them.

by InYaDamnPanties November 29, 2016

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The phrase if you can’t beat them, join them is a proverb that has only been traced as far back as the 1930s. A proverb is a short, common saying or phrase that particularly gives advice or shares a universal truth. Common proverbs are phrases used in the English language in order to convey a concise idea, and are often spoken or are considered informal or conversational. Sometimes, only the beginning of a proverb is quoted, the speaker assuming that the listener can supply the rest of the quote for himself. Many English as a Second Language students do not understand proverbs, as they attempt to translate them word for word, which yields only the literal meaning. In addition to learning vocabulary and grammar, one must understand the figurative meaning of a proverb in order to know English like a native speaker. We will examine the expression if you can’t beat them, join them, where it was first seen in print and some examples of its use in sentences.

If you can’t beat them, join them usually means if you can not defeat your opponent, you may as well join forces with him in order to have at least a modicum of control of the situation. An alternate meaning of if you can’t beat them, join them is the advice to adopt the methods that your opponent is using in a situation, but not necessarily the goals. In this case, if you can’t beat them, join them has a similar meaning to the phrase beat someone at his own game. Usage of the phrase if you can’t beat them, join them may be good-natured, deferring to the will of the group, or it may be a warning that the conflict is about to become more intense. If you can’t beat them join them is American English, though its etymology is shrouded in mystery. The earliest known use of the term is in the Atlantic Monthly magazine, in 1932. Senator James E. Watson listed the term as one of his favorite maxims, which means it was in use for some period of time before 1932. The exact quote is “If you can’t lick ’em, jine ’em.” This is a rendering of the phrase with slang terminology, used to communicate in specialized situations. The phrase if you can’t lick them, join them is still occasionally seen, but the word lick to mean defeat is not used as often as it once was. If you can’t beat them, join them is a proverb that is often quoted as pragmatic advice for those in politics.

Examples

Durant’s “if you can’t beat them, join them” attitude has attracted criticism since he moved to the Bay Area but it has also seen him win the last two NBA titles while being named NBA Finals MVP in both occasions. (Newsweek Magazine)

But with the iPhone XS, Apple is playing an ‘if you can’t beat them, join them’ strategy by mimicking the image processing of Google’s Pixels. (Forbes Magazine)

In the most literal example of the “if you can’t beat them, join them” mentality, he goes from Levi’s victim to his barely tolerated “pet” in the profoundly misbegotten belief that if he can outmatch them in the viciousness of his racial hatred, he will have found a tribe to which he can belong. (Variety Magazine)

“Maybe this falls under the heading of ‘If you can’t lick ’em, join ’em,’” says renowned Key West skipper R.T. Trosset. (Sport Fishing Magazine)

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em

If you can't defeat your opponent, then you might as well work alongside them or do what they do. A: "I thought you said you'd never join social media." B: "Yeah, but everybody else has, so if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I guess."

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If you can't beat them, join them.

 and If you can't lick 'em, join 'em.

Prov. If you have to give up fighting some group because you can't win, band together with them. (The version with lick is informal.) Jill: I just got a kitten. Jane: I can't believe it! You used to hatepeople who owned cats. Jill: If you can't beat them, join them. Alan: I hear you're a Republican now. Fred: Yeah, I figured, if you can't lick 'em, join 'em.

McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. © 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.

if you can't beat them, join them

if you are unable to outdo rivals in some endeavour, you might as well cooperate with them and gain whatever advantage possible by doing so. humorous .

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if you can’t ˈbeat them, ˈjoin them

(saying) if you cannot defeat somebody or be as successful as they are, then it is more sensible to join them in what they are doing and perhaps get some advantage for yourself by doing so: Everybody else seems to be leaving early today, so I think I will too. After all, if you can’t beat ’em, join ’em!

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See also:
  • be/get in on something
  • get in on
  • have (something) to spare
  • have to spare
  • if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle
  • come in on the ground floor
  • be in on the ground floor
  • be, come, get, etc. in on the ground floor
  • goodnight Vienna
  • how do you like that

Who said if you cant beat them join them?

Quote by Jim Henson: “If you can't beat them. Join them”

What does it mean if you can't beat them join them?

idiom informal saying. said when you accept that you cannot be as successful as other people without doing what they do, even though you do not approve of or agree with it. SMART Vocabulary: related words and phrases.

What is an example of if you can't beat them join them?

For example, Seeing that no one else was willing to stick with the old software program, Marcia learned the new one, noting if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, or I opposed a new school library, but the town voted for it, so I'll support it—if you can't lick 'em, join 'em.

Can't beat the classics meaning?

One cannot improve upon or surpass something, as in excellence, quality, value, etc.